As FYI I am having issues with my Hellcat ftf on Sig V Crown both 115 and 124 grain HP and also Black Hills.Already returned once to Springfield and still having same issue. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. At this point the Hellcat is loaded. The purpose is to make the gun safer to carry with a loaded chamber. JavaScript is disabled. It comes with a spare 13 round magazine. The P365 proved you could take a tiny gun, and cram ten rounds into it and have it take up the same space as a single stack 9mm. These are great cars and I wish I had the opportunity to own one but I am very pleased with my Hellcat. The Hellcat™ employs a proven trigger safety mechanism that is used in many of today’s most trusted firearms. The trigger reach is slightly reduced, and my petite girlfriend seems to appreciate it for her smaller hands. Now it is much better. Feels almost like a different car, overall feels the same but better if that makes sense. The Springfield Hellcat has proven a popular choice for concealed carry pistols since its release. The trigger on the Springfield Armory Hellcat is a pretty standard striker-fired trigger. The last video from ROLLINS 9 MM posted here gives a solution that works very well to smooth out the trigger. But the stock Hellcat trigger has some issues that the Apex fixes. The trigger includes a safety blade (like many other handguns) that must be depressed for the gun to be fired. I have it now, and I'm carrying it in the same Alabama kydex pocket holster. Pull trigger correctly and follow instructions when dry firing. Springfield Hellcat 9mm Subcompact Pistol Accuracy Results. Its definitely a nice little gun. She has adopted the Hellcat as her gun now, so her opinion matters the most. The trigger is sure safe enough, but I'll admit I'd like to see SA shave a hair off the dingus so people can shoot them with their fingernail. He also needs to learn how to use a trigger. With that in mind, it it is great news to hear that Apex Tactical has introduced a NEW Action Enhancement Trigger to improve the Hellcat’s trigger pull, travel, and break. This is within factory specs for safe on duty/off duty carry. I had to do very little filing and now that "problem" is gone and the safety works fully. Apex says these components "significantly improve the feel of the trigger … I learned a lot here as a 365 owner. Recent Posts. Our sample originally tripped the gauge at a healthy 7.25 pounds with a certain amount of grittiness before the break and being trigger snobs, that didn’t cut it. The grip is a little chubbier. I went from a 2016 Hellcat to a RE and it feels more aggressive which im sure is due to the 3.09’s I made sure to get when I ordered it. :wacko: Again you're fabricating- this thread never mentioned Springfield's leftist politics until you just did. Most of us know we must depress the dingus for the trigger to work. The concept is nice, but I’m still not completely on board with that U-dot setup. Try it out. The trigger issue made me feel uncomfortable. Again, a bit of light side pressure on the Hellcat trigger causes the trigger safety to not be depressable, while on Glocks and the mossberg that light side pressure isn't an issue- it still allows the trigger safety to function. A forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer Pistols and SIG Sauer Rifles owners and enthusiasts. The safety blade is doing exactly as intended. Minuteman. The Action Enhancement Trigger for the Hellcat pistols is the easiest, quickest upgrade you can do to the trigger system that significantly improves the feel of the trigger pull, without reducing factory safety values. Like we both mentioned, very little negative chatter about Hellcat issues. The Hellcat version ships with the Apex Action Enhancement Trigger, Sear Spring, and Striker Spring. I didn't care for the trigger or the recoil on the Hellcat. While testing/dry firing every once and a while the trigger wouldn’t move, obviously it turned out to be the tab (or whatever it’s called) in the Polymer 80 brand trigger. The striker issue has become silent as well because people actually read the manual and were told to stop dry firing the pistol non stop without snap caps. BETTER engine. It seems like the issue with the Hellcat is similar to the issue with the PM9. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 9 of 9 Posts. Yeah I need hand controls I’m paralyzed from chest down and my whole spine is fused.. May be easy for you but I’m trying to imagine the awesome throttle feel by hand! The Hellcat features either an 11+1 flush fit magazine or a 13+1 extended magazine depending on what you choose to carry. Video worked for me. When the trigger safety lever that is incorporated into the trigger is not engaged, it blocks the trigger from moving rearward. It should be a very safe firearm to carry, draw or holster. As a carry gun, however, the Hellcat blew me away. It joined the family stable of our SRT Jeep and my supercharged Challenger. The real difference is the way the trigger feels. The more I read and watch, the guy in that original video exaggerates to the extreme. The complete Press Release from Apex Tactical regarding this can be read below: It has trigger safety (the lever protruding from the center of the trigger) which must be depressed fully to allow the trigger to be pulled and the gun to fire. It is something you need to experience to fully appreciate, but be warned…once you do, you will not look at a micro pistol with a curved trigger the same way again. Suggest you watch PRP video on install, I could not have done install myself with out the video. With the installed Apex trigger, the Springfield Armory Hellcat measures around 5.1 lbs on the trigger scale. PX Member. I didn’t find it to be spectacular but also did not experience any real issues with it. You won’t be disappointed! Keep in mind this is a subcompact pistol. Backrest manual. Interestingly enough many people on YouTube are modifying their trigger safety and making their gun potentially dangerous to themselves. The Trigger Point. In the few videos I have seen, the Hellcat (terrible name) experiences the same tendency as the P365 which is the slide not always locking back on the last shot fired. Discuss modifications, engine specs, pricing and more! So I’m really close to pulling the trigger!whats the man issues with a red eye hellcat,? It's designed to prevent the firearm from discharging even if the safety eventually is depressed by lateral side pressure. All testing was filmed with high-speed cameras to analyze potential problems. Not good! This is a very, very brand loyal forum and that is not necessarily a bad thing. The video was simply showing what I was trying to get across. Oct 22, 2020 #4 I came to the same conclusion as you so I decided on either the hellcat or the p365. That's exactly what most actual Hellcat owners are saying. That is a mouthful against that Hellcat that has nothing wrong with it. Installation of the Apex Action Enhancement Trigger on the Springfield Hellcat is straightforward. Trigger very smooth but takeup will still be present, I feel comfortale carrying the gun now. The Hellcat is an awesome gun. There was some confusion as to what is actually happening. This is likely why we haven't seen a video of it happening with actual shooting. That trigger safety is one of the reasons I got the Hellcat over the 365. Oddly enough I had this same problem with a g19 size Polymer 80 build not to long ago. Is it a Challenger? The Hellcat, besides being equipped with a trigger-lever safety, has a passive striker-block safety that is deactivated to allow the striker to move forward and strike a primer only if the trigger is pulled. The Apex Hellcat trigger kit passed every single drop with no safety problems. I didn't have a problem with mine until I saw the video and recreated what he was doing. Very unhappy, I installed the PRP kit and it cleared up all the problems I was having with the trigger and I am very happy with gun now. I thought the same thing. Stronger internals and more doo-dads. The OSP variant model was only $30 more than a standard Hellcat. Hellcat Trigger Issue Fix. HKPro is so loyal they don't even have a general weapons forum. The trigger on the Hellcat is comparable to similar market options. Howe… One of my favorite things about the gun is the same style texture that they use for the grip, located where your index finger should rest on the frame when you’re keeping that finger off the trigger. The trigger really doesn’t feel that good from a gun store counter perspective. Jgault Sergeant of the Hide. Primary Arms SLx 1-6 Raptor SFP Review: Better than a red dot? Be comprehensive. Check out our full review here. When ready to fire, a deliberate press of the trigger disengages the trigger safety and begins the rearward travel of the trigger assembly. LOVE THIS GUN! It is NOT a gun problem, but rather a technique problem. The Hellcat trigger pull weight as tested was 5.43 pounds. The Hellcat, besides being equipped with a trigger-lever safety, has a passive striker-block safety that is deactivated to allow the striker to move forward and strike a primer only if the trigger is pulled. Reactions: Jefe's Dope. So, reloading or manipulating the slide will hopefully not be an issue unless you have a malfunction. Thing is a beast. The Hellcat has a very good trigger safety installed. The striker issue has become silent as well because people actually read the manual and were told to stop dry firing the pistol non stop without snap caps. Carry-wise the Hellcat carries just a tad larger. When so many things about the Hellcat are above average it is almost disappointing to have an average trigger. Packing 13+1 rounds of 9mm chaos into a package that fits in your front jeans pocket, the Hellcat changed the concealed carry game. With these small guns, it is very difficult to eliminate the effect of the shooter's grip not engaging the slide catch during firing. Power tilt telescope column too. The Redeye is on another level vs the regular hellcat. JavaScript is disabled. HellCat.org is a forum dedicated to the Dodge Challenger and Charger SRT Hellcat & Demon. Here is a video on how I fixed the trigger “issue” on the Springfield Armory Hellcat. Mean Bone. Enter the guys at Apex Tactical, who fortunately live … After a few rounds with the Hellcat I started to get what I call the Glock .40 sting from the web of my hand down to the palm. I can appreciate letting the public know of failures of a new firearm, but it doesn't appear to be all that wide spread. The guy in the video below gets 5 different pistols to do the same thing using crappy technique. Now Apex Tactical is offering their premiere trigger … It comes with a non-proprietary rail system that any manufacturer can make parts for. The flat faced Hellcat trigger allows the break to come while the trigger is well forward that of most curved triggers. It comes with a flat-faced trigger with blade safety. The striker tip is meant to hit and stop at the primer, thus negating other parts slamming hard metal. Recoil really reminded me of shooting a 40sw 01-19-20, 21:22 #8. After that experience I can definitely see how a problem like this could potentially get someone hurt or killed if it happened at the wrong time. No problem. Even in a no stress situation when it would happen to me it took a few seconds to realize what was going on, in a full on stressful situation? Fore/aft and recline. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The only reason I state this is that we have a full family of Hemi’s and many before and no real issues with any of them. We got the Glock 48 and 43X, which offer ten rounds in a slightly bigger platform, and SIG released the bigger P365 XL model. The thing that the P365 does really well for shooting is that while the grip is small, the actual trigger break is in the same place relative to the palm... as a G19. You know, unlike when the P365 failures started to popped up all over the interwebs, this is the only place I can find that is discussing the failures of the Hellcat. Took a 7# pull down to 4# pull and no more safety lockup so far. When properly installed, this drop-in trigger will: – Reduce trigger pull weight to 5.0 to 5.5 lbs after break-in period It’s grip texturing is smooth to the light touch, grips when gripped back, and covers more of the firearm. Psgr seat manual only. After 200 rounds I bought the Sig P365. It gives me a little Glock knuckle so I dremmeled some extra undercut behind the trigger guard. It has the Demon engine, the better driveshaft, the stronger differential case and very different axles. The sights on the Hellcat are, honestly, a little ‘meh’ after using them for a few months. Well, it will be soon. After shooting both as range rentals I went with the p365 for a few reasons. Shooting the Hellcat: very similar to the P365. Get the Redeye! The purpose is to make the gun safer to carry with a loaded chamber. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I submit to lightening the mood of the thread. Like we both mentioned, very little negative chatter about Hellcat issues. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Leave a Comment / April 3, 2020 November 20, 2020. Drivers power is odd too. Seems every time a new gun is introduced it has some initial growing pains. Cannae Legion Day pack – Five Minute Find; Primary Arms SLx 1-6 Raptor FFP Review – Fastest range estimation ever? Springfield Service is no very good so far. The most prominent issue is that if you put sideways pressure on the trigger before attempting to pull straight back, the … The other features of the Hellcat put me over the top. https://www.deseret.com/1989/3/17/1...on-charges-of-taking-bribes-in-salvador-sales, Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The Hellcat is equipped with a trigger safety meaning that there is a small lever ahead of the actual trigger that must be actuated to allow the trigger to be depressed and the gun to fire. I wouldnt worry, they have these cars pretty well sorted by now. The Springfield Armory Hellcat is the world’s highest-capacity micro-compact defensive pistol. The trigger wall is too close to a fully closed hand. Installation of the Apex Trigger . It has takeup, a wall, and then a slight bit of heavy creep before it breaks. People who have been shooting the pistol have not reported having an issue because they actually put their finger on the trigger correctly. So it's time for a Springfield Hellcat trigger job. Trigger. G. gnx1234 ... 2020 Challenger Hellcat Redeye Wide Body - Octane red, 3.09's, black Laguna leather, red belts, sunroof, nav, perf spoiler, C/F suede package, brought home 7/17/2020 2016 Hellcat - A8, pitch black, black Laguna leather, black wheels, nav, … (Photo/ Richard Macchia) Trigger stacking is defined as an increase in spring pressure the further a trigger is pulled to the rear. I’ve gotten approved but didn’t show back up tonight to test fit myself getting in from my wheelchair.. Good luck with your purchase. Is this a term yet? I stop carrying Glock for the same issue. -JCN-, Oct 8, 2019-JCN-, Oct 8, 2019. grumpy1, jhc37013 and zaitcev like this. The striker tip is meant to hit and stop at the primer, thus negating other parts slamming hard metal. I have to unholster and holster often and feel better, even though I'm careful, with a little extra trigger safety but I am not thrilled with external safeties. No real issues to worry about. The Hellcat has a flat-faced trigger which helps to facilitate proper placement of the pad of your trigger finger and a straight rearward press of the trigger – which is a must for accuracy. Compared to a full-size duty gun, small pistols require far more work (and frustration) to extract top performance. I just emailed two videos to them showing it failing to feed and they tested it with Federal HST JHP and it does feed that flawless as I tested myself. I think personal experience on the range would trump these one off forced failures. Sig’s little 9mm has made a big splash in the market, and it changed what concealed carry looks like. 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